raSi mdgomareobs avataris mosvlis mizani? Cven rogor unda ganvaxorcieloT gadasvla formidan uformosken? es aris Temebi romlebic sai giridharma Sri saThia sais umaRlesi ganaTlebis institutidan warmoaCina daskvniT dRes kolokviumis `gancda RmrTiurebis – formidan uformosken~, romelic Catarda 2012 wlis 23-25 aprils Sri saThia sais radhana mahotsavamis dReebSi.
universitetis damTavrebis Semdeg sai giridharma bhagavanis davalebiT daiwyo samecniero gamokvlevebis Catareba qimiis fakultetze doqtoris xarisxis misaRebad. ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSi sai giridharis ojaxi Camodioda praSanti nilaiamSi, da misi mogonebebi iwyeba jer kidev skolamdeli periodidan, rodesac bhagavani atarebda misTvis or mniSvnelovan ceremonias – akSarabhiasa (kurTxeva swavlebaze) da upanaianas (wminda zonaris ceremonias). sai giridhari dabadebiT aris haiderabadidan. damatebiT akademiur karierasTan sai giridhari gaxda damrigebeli Sri saThia sais saerTo sacxovrebelSi, agreTve koordinatori kulturuli programebis. qvemoT mocemulia sai kulvant holSi 2012 wlis 25 aprils misi gamosvlis teqsti.
me mokrZalebiT vesalmebi mas, visi wyalobiTac munjebi iwyeben laparaks, xeibrebi miemgzavrebian himalaiSi, visze azric gvavsebs Cven umaRlesi transcendentuli netarebiT – ufals yvela RmerTebis da Cems sayvarel bhagavans.
me gesalmebiT Tqven yvelas RmrTiurebis mSvenier naperwklebs. dRes gamoyofil dRes modiT davfiqrdeT ai raze: raSi mdgomareobs avataris mosvlis mizani? rodesac Cven vsaubrobT imaze rom unda gadavideT formidan uformosken, maSin Cven romel formaze vlaparakobT? rogoria RmerTis forma, da Cven rogor SegviZlia gadavideT formidan uformosken.
avataris mosvlis mizani
pirveli kiTxva – raSi mdgomareobs avataris mosvlis mizani? rodesac ramdenime Cveni profesori ixilavda am sakiTxs, maT warmoeqmnaT daeWveba. avatari raama movida treta iugaSi. magram TvalnaTelia rom dvapara iuagSi romelic mas mohyva dharma (ubiwoeba) movida dacemaSi. mas Semdeg rac dvapara iugaSi ufalma kriSnam datova Tavisi mokvdavi garsi, dadga kali iuga, da kvlav dharma movida dacemaSi. magram TviT ufalma Tqva rom rodesac dharma modis dacemaSi, is xorcieldeba kvlav da kvlav! maSin ra aris es dharma, romlis dasaarseblad modis TviT ufali?
im saRamos erTgulebi Seikribnen mandirSi, aq praSanti nilaiamSi, da bhagavanma moulodnelad iTxova magidis motana da gamovida sityviT. im dRes man Tqva: `arseboben adamianebi romlebic iazreben imis Sesaxeb Tu rogori dharmis dasaarseblad modis ufali. miekuTvneba es dharma sxeuls Tu es aris umaRlesi dharma? gvaswavlis is mxolod imas rogor vicxovroT idealuri cxovrebiT? rogori dharmis dasaarseblad modis RmerTi?~ bhagavani agrZelebda: `RmerTi modis rogorc avatari imisTvis rom daaarsos prema dharma – siyvaruli erTgulebis gulSi~.
Tu ufali Sri raama ar movidoda rogorc avatari, maSin movlindeboda tiagaraja milionobiT adamianis STamgonebeli rom iaron RmerTisadmi siyvarulis gziT? Tu ufali kriSna ar ganxorcieldeboda Tavis umSvenieres formaSi, maSin SeZlebdnen deda mirabai da Sri ramanujaCaria gaevrcelebinaT RmarTisadmi siyvaruliis gzavnili misi mosvlidan aTasobiT wlis Semdeg? Tu ieso ar movidoda imisTvis rom moeTxro misi mflobelis da mamis didebis Sesaxb, maSin gaCndeboda msoflioSi milionobiT iesos mimdevari, romlebmac ganaviTares TavianT gulebSi siyvaruli da TanagrZnoba?
avataris mizani mdgomareobs ara marto imaSi rom aswavlos adamians idealuri cxovrebiT cxovreba, daadginos cxovrebis gasaocari wesebi da gaxsnas iseTi sanimuSo dawesebulebebi rogoric aris superspecializebuli hospitali, saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebebi da a.S. ueWvelad es aris mSvenieri magaliTebi, romlebsac kacobriobam SeiZleba misdios, magram avataris mizani aris Zalian Sors amisgan da mdgomareobs imaSi, rom gardaqmnas adamianTa gulebi. avatari romlis Sesaxebac Cven vsaubrobT dRes, es aris Cveni sayvareli bhagavani. maSinac ki Tu kosmosis yvela arsebaTa Wkuebi moisurvebda rom gaego bhagavanis, isini ver SeZlebdnen amis gakeTebas. es SesaZlebelia mxolod maSin, rodesac is moisurvebs gamogvivlinos Cven Tavisi Tavi, gagvixsnas Cven avataris mosvlis saidumlo. da man gaakeTa es aseTi istoriis moTxrobiT.
erTxel erTma erTgulma hkiTxa bhagavans: `svami ra aris Tripura arhasiam?~ bhagavanma gaiRima da Tqva: `neba momeci me mogiTxro istoria~. da gaagrZela: `erTxel brahmas, viSnus da maheSvaras gauCndaT eWvebi. Tu Tqven raimeSi eWvi geparebaT, maSin SegiZliaT waxvideT sulier maswavlebelTan. Tu eWvebi aReZvrebaT did maswavleblebs, isini midian brahmasTan, viSnusTan da maheSvarasTan, magram, Tu es RmerTebi iwyeben daeWvebas, maSin vis mimarTaven isini? brahmam, viSnum da maheSvaram mimarTes Saktis an Tripura devis, romelmac Seqmna isini. deda Tripura devim wynarad Tqva: `mec ki ar maqvs pasuxebi Tqvens kiTxvebze~.
`magram me vici, Tqven sad SeiZleba ipovoT pasuxi Tqvens kiTxvaze. amitom man waiyvana brahma, viSnu da maheSvara did WiSkarTan. man gaxsna is. WiSkris ukan iyo grZeli darbazi~.
Semdeg svamim Tqva: `darbazis orive mxares idga aTasobiT taxti. yovel taxts hqonda oTxi fexi – brahma, viSnu, maheSvara da Tripura devi. RmerTebi iyvnen gaocebuli rodesac dainaxes aTasobiT brahma, viSnu, maheSvara da Tripura devi. RmerTebi fiqrobdnen, rom iyvnen TiToni eulad. Semdeg moisurves gaegoT isini viRas eTayvanebian. darbazis bolos maT dainaxes mSvenieri lotosis terfebi. roca maT aswies Tavebi, rom SeexedaT visi iyo es terfebi, maT dainaxes bhagavani Sri saThia sai baba.
bhagavani Sri saThia sai baba – es aris kosmosuri avatari, adi puruSa, romelmac gamoavlina Tavisi Tavi SaktSi da es Sakti ganxorcielda mravalricxovan Tripura devid da yovelma maTganma Seqmna qmnileba. dRes mecnierebac ki aRiarebs ramdenime paraleluri msoflios arsebobas. arsebobs msoflioTa simravle, da adi puruSa (Tavdapirveli arseba), gamomJRavnebuli rogorc adi Sakti imisTvis rom Seqmnas qmnileba, Zala romelmac brZana gacxadeba mravalricxovan msofliod, movida aq am mSvenier dedamiwaze, rogorc kosmosuri stumari~. aseTia uflis mSvenieri forma.
bhagavani ambobs: `avataris forma – es aris sxva araferi, Tu ara erTgulTa siyvarulisa da Sewirvis Sedegi~. is mogvevlina Cven imitom rom Cven gvsurda misi xilva. is aris – ganxorcieleba Cveni siyvarulis, Cveni askezobis. Semdeg ibadeba kiTxva – rogor SemiZlia me vTxovo erTguls uari Tqvas uflis aseT mSvenier formaze? rogor SemiZlia me vTxovo erTguls uaryos Cveni uflis aseTi siyvaruliT savse forma?
RmrTiurebasTan SeerTebis yvelaze martivi gza
Cven yvelam viciT rogor mSvenier magaliTs gvvaZlevda Cven yvelas bhagavani im interviuebze romlebic man Cven mogvca. is xsnida karebs gviwvevda yvelas SevsuliyaviT da mxolod Semdeg Semodioda TviTon. is rTavda ventilators, ketavda kars, jdeboda da iwyebda saubars. rogori idealuri maspinZeli iyo is!
interviuze romelsac is aZlevda erT students, yvelaferi xdeboda zustad aseve, erTi momentis gamoklebiT. imis Semdeg roca bhagavanma daketa karebi, man imis magier rom ekiTxa: `ra siaxleebia?~ – svamim `daiquxa~: `Sen kidev ramdens irben am Cemi sxeulis ukan? ramdenad did xans unda damamwyvdio Sen me am fizikuri sxeulis galiaSi? iswavle uxilavi Zalis danaxva, romelic amoZravebs am sxeulsac ki~.
studenti iyo gaocebuli radgan cxovrobda mxolod sufTa siyvaruliT bhagavanis fizikur formasTan da masTan erTgulebiT. man dauwyo vedreba bhagavans: `svami, magram me ar vici, rogor SeverTde am uxilav ZalasTan, me gicnob mxolod Sen am mSvenier fizikur formaSi. geTayva momiyevi me saidumlo rogor SeverTde SenTan gamoumJRavnebliT, uxilaviT da maradiuliT~.
bhagavanma Tqva: `mTeli Cemi cxovreba me vlaparakob amis Sesaxeb, da Sen Zveleburad maZlev me am kiTxvas?~ Semdeg svamim daamata: `erTaderTi gza, yvelaze advili gza, yvelaze mSvenieri gza, romelze siaruliTac erTguls SeuZlia SeerTdes am uxilav ZalasTan, RmrTiurebis maradiul ZalasTan, es aris siyvarulis Zala~.
erTxel bhagavanma moyva mSvenieri istoria deda radhas da kriSnas Sesaxeb. kurukSetris Semdeg kriSna dabrunda brindavanSi da wavida iamunis napirze, rom epova radha. is ijda xis qveS, Cafluli Tavis azrebSi. kriSnam gaifiqra rom is Zalian gaakvirvebs mas. man Cumad Semouara xes da uecrad daxta deda radhas win, im imediT, rom is wamoxteba sixaruliT da moulodnelobiT. magram mis ukiduresad gasakvirad deda radham mxolod Sexeda masze da gaiRima.
kriSnam uTxra: `radhe! es me var – Seni kriSna. me davbrundi SenTan~. deda radham SemkiTxavad Sexeda masze da Tqva: `dabrundi CemTan?~ man xeli dauWira kriSnas da gaiqca mdinare iamunisken, aiRo xeliT wyali, aCvena is kriSnas da uTxra: `kriSna Sexede gana iamunis yovel wveTSi Sen ar xar?~
man kvlav dauWira mas xeli da gaiqca ukan im xesTan romlis qveSac is ijda. Zalian frTxilad man daxara toti, aCvena mas foTlebi da uTxra: `Sexede kriSna, gana Sen ar xar am xis yovel foTolSi? gana Sen ar imyofebi yovel balaxSi? Tu Sen yovelTvis iyavi CemTan, Cems irgvliv, maSin Sen rodisRa waxvedi, Tu axla ambob, rom dabrundi CemTan?~
kriSna moicva radhis upirobo siyvarulma. man uTxra: `radhe, me var – msoflios ufali. mTxove, mTxove rac gsurs, me siamovnebiT mogcem Sen mas~.
radham uTxra: `me araferi ar minda Sengan~. kriSnam uTxra: `Sen ar ginda Cemi siyvarulic ki?~ maSin radham upasuxa: `me vici rom me miyvarxar Sen, me vici, rom Sen Cemi xar. Sen yovelTvis iqnebi CemTan. Sen mudam iqnebi Cemi kuTvnili. ar aqvs mniSvneloba Sen giyvarvar me Tu ara~.
am momentSi – es aris saidumlo, Zmis da dis – avatari pirvelad daeSva muxlebze, daikava deda radhas xeli da Tqva: `radhe, pirvelad qmnilebis mTel droSi me miviRe Cemi erTgulisgan upirobo siyvaruli~. bhagavanma Tqva rom es upirobo siyvaruli gvexmareba Cven SeerTebaSi masTan.
rogor ganvaxorcieloTD gadasvla formidan uformosken
Cven rogor unda ganvaxorcieloT es gadasvla? rogor gzavnils gadmogvcems Cven es istoria? rodesac bhagavanma Tqva: `ar sdio sirbiliT am sxeuls~, – mas undoda rom Cven gavigoT rom fizikuri sxeuli Sedgeba xuTi elementisgan, da misi RmrTiuri nebiT es xuTi elementi dabrundeba Tavis wyarosTan. magram misi forma, misi yvelaze mSvenieri forma SeuZlebelia uaryo, yoveli erTguli saTuTad inaxavs mas Tavis gulSi, da is aisaxeba mis TvalebSi. misi yvelaze wminda da Zlevamosili saxeli unda Seerwymas Cvens yovel sunTqvas, yovel qmedebas sicocxlis bolo wuTamde. imisTvis rom SevasruloT gadasvla formidan uformosken, unda movexvioT mis mSvenier formas Cveni gulebiT.
bhagavani ambobs rom yvela forma ekuTvnis mas. gvaCvena ra Cven Tavisi WeSmariti pirovneba, bhagavanma Tqva: `iciT vin var me? me viReb yvela formas, magram, amis miuxedavad me var – SanTham~. ra aris SanThi? es ar aris is siwynare da mSvidoba romelic damokidebulia Cems finjan yavaSi Saqris raodenobaze, an imisgan, miiRo Tu ara aRiareba Cemma samuSaom. es ar aris is mSvidoba, romelic hgavs safondo birJis grafiks. bhagavani ambobs: `SanThi – es aris siwynare. WeSmariti mSvidoba – es aris erTnairi damokidebuleba orobiTi samyaros gamovlinebebTan, tkivilTan da siamovnebasTan, sixarulTan da dardTan, warmatebasTan da marcxTan~.
`erTgulis siwynare es aris is riTac izomeba misi erTguleba~, – ambobs svami. mxolod es sazRvravs Tqveni erTgulebis siRrmes. amitom Cveni erTguleba uflisadmi da bhagavanisadmi siyvaruli ganisazRvreba siwynaris xarisxiT, romelsac Cven ganvcdiT, orobiTi samyaros gamovlinebebTan pirispir Sexvedrisas.
saxelebi bevria, forma aris erTi
`yvela saxeli mekuTvnis me. Tqven SegiZliaT damiZaxoT me nebismieri saxeliT, da me moval TqvenTan~.
me minda mogiyveT araordinarul SemTxvevaze, romelic moxda gasuli wlis dekemberSi. CvenTan Camovida axalgazrda adamiani indoneziidan. is iyo mahmadiani. misi sulieri maswaflebeli radin sahidi iyo sufis mimdevari wmindani, romelic cxovrobda me-15 saukuneSi. es axalgazrda adamiani misdevda Tavisi maswavleblis moZRvrebas, da mis gulsa da WkuaSi mudmivad JRerda: `alaah ho akbar (ufali didia)~.
rodesac is Camovida praSanti nilaiamSi erTad jgufTan erTgulTa romlebic swavlobdnen bhagavanis sakvirvel ganaTlebis sistemas, man miiRo araCveulebrivi gancda. is ijda zneobriv faseulobebze miZRvnil gakveTilze romelic universitetSi tardeba yovel xuTSabaTs. prezentaciis Semdeg, romlis drosac didi xnis erTgulebi yvebodnen Cveni sayvareli bhagavanis, avataris bunebis Sesaxeb, is movida CemTan da mkiTxa: `sai baba xSirad modis TqvenTan da gadmogcemT ai aseT gzavnilebs?~
me upasuxe: `Sen raze laparakob?~
man Tqva: `sai baba xSirad modis TqvenTan da gaZlevT ai aseT mSvenier darigebebs?~
me vkiTxe: `Sen ra naxe sai baba?~
Zmebo da debo es mamakaci arasdros adre ar yofila praSanti nilaiamSi, da aq Camosvlamde man araferi icoda svamis Sesaxeb.
Semdeg is agrZelebda: `diax, rodesac oratori gamodioda, me davinaxe, is rogor movida da dajda im did savarZelSi romelic Tqven dadgiT. imis Semdeg rac sityva warmoiTqva, is adga, gamovida win da aswia xelebi mkurTxebel JestSi, romelic Cuqnis uSiSrobas. is idga iq da laparakobda CvenTan. man Tqva: `wadiT yoveli sxeulidan yovel sulTan. wadiT yoveli sulidan erTian sulTan, wadiT erTiani sulidan RmerTTan~.
am adamianma indoneziidan miiRo araCveulebrivi gancda, magram rogori Rrma gzavnili gadmogvca Cven bhagavanma: `damiZaxeT me nebismieri saxeliT da me moval~.
gasul wels zogirTi Cvengani Cavida badrinaThSi, da iq Cven SemTxveviT SevxvdiT iogs, romelic didxans laparakobda CvenTan bhagavanis Sesaxeb. man Tqva: `Tqven cdebiT Tu fiqrobT rom bhagavani imyofeba Tqvengan Sors. es ase ar aris. Zalian, Zalian advilia gaakeTo ise rom bhagavani iyos Tqvens gverdiT~.
Cven yvela Zalian davinteresdiT rogor SeiZleba amis gakeTeba. `Zalian martivad~ – Tqva man. ai raSi dagvarwmuna Cven bhagavanma, rom usaTuoa, moxdeba, Tu Tqven gamoiyenebT mis darigebas cxovrebaSi. `upirveles yovlisa, gaasufTaveT sakuTari azrebi, Semdeg daiviwyeT yvelafris Sesaxeb, CaZireT Wkua Rrmad gulSi, aavseT guli siyvaruliT, dauZaxeT erTjer `sai ram~, da bhagavani iqve wardgeba Tqvens win~.
bhagavanis WeSmariti forma
rogoriRaa misi WeSmariti forma? is iRebs yvela formas, miuxedavad amisa, is aris – SanTham. es ras niSnavs? is ratom aris mSvidi? orobiTobis ZiriTadi mizezi es aris – sxeulTan gaigiveba. im momentSi rodesac me vfiqrob rom me var sxeuli, rom me gansxvavebuli var podiumisgan an mikrofonisgan, maSin me gansxvavebuli var Tqvengan yvelasganac. bhagavani ambobs: `me viReb yvela formas, amis miuxedavad me ar vaigiveb Cems Tavs arc erT formasTan~.
maS rogoriRaa misi WeSmariti forma?
saTh-Cit-ananda rupam advaitam (araorobiTi forma WeSmaritebis-Semecnebis-netarebis). svami ambobs: `geTayva gaigeT, rom me mxolod erTi var~. sicocxlis mTeli drama da mTeli qmnileba – es aris erTi msaxiobis TamaSi. rogor mSvenivrad TamaSobs is Tavis rolebs! rogori mravalferovnebaa, ramdeni emocia, rogor didebulia es qmnileba! yovel rols am msoflioSi TamaSobs mxolod erTi, da mxolod erTi! da is ambobs: `Cemi WeSmariti forma aris – saTh-Cit-ananda~. saTh niSnavs WeSmaritebas, aracvalebads drois msvlelobasTan erTad. Semdeg Cven Zalian gvainteresebs sityva ananda. Cven rogor SegviZlia ganvcadoT ananda an netareba? saidumlo mdgomareobs sityvaSi Cit, romelic aris SuaSi. Cit – es aris Semecneba, Secnoba. magram Secnoba ris?
sureSvara aCariam, Sri adi Sankaras erT-erTma saukeTeso mowafem, romelsac uwodeben mandara miSras, gaigo siRrme advaitis, araorobiTi filosofiis, da amis Semdeg dawera mSvenieri traqtati `naiS karmia sidhi~. am naSromSi man gaxsna cnobierebis saidumlo. Cit, ese igi cnobiereba, es aris kavSiri saTh da anandas Soris. ananda an RmrTiuri netareba – es aris saThis (WeSmaritebis) gamomJRavneba. magram WeSmariteba rogorRa mJRavndeba netarebis da cnobierebis formaSi? sureSvara aCaria iZleva Zalian ubralo axsnas. is ambobs, rom, rodesac Tqven midixarT gzaze, da gzaze devs qva, maSin Tqven xedavT mas. Tu Tqven ar dafiqrdebiT masze, maSin Tqven fexs wamokravT da daecemiT. magram Tqven xedavT qvas, da Tqveni azrebi dauyovnebliv akavSireben am saxes qvasTan, amitom Tqven SeicnobT qvas da gverds uvliT mas. zogjer Tqven iRebT qvas da gadagaqvT is gzidan, rom vinmem SemTxvebiT ar wamokras fexi.
sureSvara aCaria ambobs rom cnobierebis saidumlo mdgomareobs sagnebsa da azrebSi, romlebic dakavSirebulia am nivTebTan. RmerTi, brahmani, atma an bhagavani Sri saThia sai baba yvelganars, Secnobis sagani aris yvelgan. is msWvalavs mTel kosmoss, mis yovel atoms. imisTvis rom SevicnoT misi daswreba Cvens cxovrebaSi, misi daswreba am samyaros yovel atomSi, Cven unda vimeoroT misi saxeli da vifiqroT masze. Cven mudmivad unda vifiqroT bhagavanze. es saidumlo aseve gaxsna prahladam. ra gaakeTa man? is mudmivad fiqrobda ufal naraianaze. amitom rodesac prahlada moxvda gasaWirSi, man daiwyo daZabulad locva, da ufali naraiana gamoecxada! ai raSi mdgomareobs cnobierebis saidumlo, gasaRebi gamosavlenad WeSmaritebis an saThis – mudmivi fiqri ufalze.
saThiam sivam sundaram (WeSmariteba, sikeTe, silamaze)
magram svami ar gaCerda amaze. man gaagrZela da Tqva, rom saThiam, sivam, sundaram (WeSmariteba, sikeTe, silamaze) – es aris sami xarisxi, romlis wyalobiTac SeiZleba gaigo RmrTiureba.
rogori kavSiria mis WeSmarit formasa da saTh-Cit-anandas (yofiereba-Semecneba-netarebas) Soris? saTh an WeSmariteba, ucvleloba – es aris saThiam da TviT Cveni saThia sai. Tu saThiam mJRavndeba Cvens sicocxleebSi mSvenier formaSi sundaram, maSin aucilebelia sivam. amitom Cven gvmarTebs ganvaviTaroT keTilSobiluri azrebi da davkavdeT xelsayreli saqmianobiT, mudmivad ufalze fiqriT.
ufalma dagvmoZRvra Cven: `mudmivad ifiqreT Cemze, da maSin saThia sai gamomJRavndeba yvelaze mSvenier formaSi Tqvens cxovrebaSi, Tqvens SemecnebaSi~.
me minda davasrulo gamosvla bhagavanisadmi locviT da im pasuxiT, romelic me miviRe.
me vloculobdi: `svami me minda gixilo Sen~. da svamim mipasuxa: `me minda vxedo Seni meSveobiT~.
me vloculobdi: `svami me minda gavigono Seni sasiamovno oqros xma~.
svamim mipasuxa: ~me minda mivce sitkbo Sens xmas, rodesac vilaparakeb Seni meSveobiT~.
gacilebiT gvian me Sevicani rom is razec me vTxovdi, da is rac ufalma miTxra me, iyo erTidaigive. Tu Cven nebas vaZlevT ufals ixedos Cveni maSveobiT, maSin Cven davinaxavT mxolod mas, imitom rom rodesac ufali gvimzers Cven, is ver xedavs imas rom Cven gamocalkevebuli varT misgan. is ixedeba Cvenze rogorc TviT Tavisze! amitom Tu is ixedeba Cveni meSveobiT, maSin Cven davinaxavT mxolod bhagavans. Tu is laparakobs Cveni meSveobiT, maSin vin iqneba pirveli vinc moismens mas? uaxloesi instumenti, SemZle moisminos is, rasac ambobs Cemi piri, es aris Cemi yuri. amitom rodesac ufali laparakobs Cemi meSveobiT, me vismen mis oqros sasiamovno xmas.
me velocebi bhagavans imis Sesaxeb, rom man ixedos Cveni meSveobiT, ilaparakos Cveni meSveobiT, icxovros Cveni meSveobiT da uyvardes Cveni meSveobiT. am locviT me vTxov mas nebarTvas davamTavro dRes Cemi gamosvla.
jei sai ram.
