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profesor anil kumaris es gamosvla (7 oqtomberi 2002 weli) warmoadgens damatebiT satsangs. man amoarCia mniSvnelovani momentebi, romelsac baba uziarebs darSanze mis terfebTan Sekrebil studentebs, aivanze praSanti nilaiamSi. am satsangebs eqnebaT regularuli xasiaTi.profesor anil kumaris es gamosvla (7 oqtomberi 2002 weli) warmoadgens damatebiT satsangs. man amoarCia mniSvnelovani momentebi, romelsac baba uziarebs darSanze mis terfebTan Sekrebil studentebs, aivanze praSanti nilaiamSi. am satsangebs eqnebaT regularuli xasiaTi.
om…om…om…
sai ram yvelas!
babas saubrebi studentebTan
2002 wlis 28 seqtemberi
“arasdros ar dakargoT garemomcvelTa ndoba”
es moxda 2002 wlis 28 seqtembers. svami elaparakeboda erT moangariSes da ubralod hkiTxa mas:L”Sen ras saqmianob?”
man upasuxa: “me vakeTeb amas… me vakeTeb imas”. svamis ar moewona, raRac iqidan, rasac is akeTebs. man hkiTxa am kacs: “Sen es ratom gaakeTe? Sen ratom gaakeTe ai es da ai es.”
da am moangariSem upasuxa: “svami, Cven gavakeTeT zogierTi cvlileba Cveni keTildReobisaTvis.”
geTayva, SeniSneT es gzavnili, romelic yvelas exeba. “xedviT imaze, rac Tqveni sakeTildReoa, Tqven SeiZleba dakargoT sxvebis ndoba. garemomcvelni gendobian Tqven. Tu Tqven mihyvebiT imas, rac Tqveni sakeTildReoa, Tqven kargavT maT ndobas. amrigad ndoba mTavaria. Tqven arasdros ar unda gaakeToT ise, rom dakargoT sxvebis ndoba. ubralod Tqvens gamorCenaze zrunviT, Tqven verasdros ver miaRwevT warmatebas cxovrebaSi”.
2002 wlis 5 seqtemberi
“me amiT var dabadebuli”
maS ase, me daviwyeb retrospeqtivis wesiT.
es moxda 5 seqtebers, bhagavanma uboZa interviu ucxoelTa jgufs. is gamovida piradi saubrebis oTaxidan narnarad, auCqareblad, didebulad, saxeze RimiliT, erTi xeliT Tavisi Tmebis sworebiT. is movida CvenTan, da SeCerda ra pirdapir Cems win, Semxeda me TvalebSi. man Tqva: “Sen SeamCnie es ucxoelebi?” me uTxari: “ara, svami.”
“is_elCia ruseTidan. is movida Tavis or mdivanTan da stenografTan erTad. me vesaubre maT. me davuTme maT bevri dro.”
iq intervius dros isini Zalian gakvirdnen. maT hkiTxes: “svami, rogor SegiZlia Sen icode es rameebi? Sen mogviyevi ase bevri Cveni piraduli, iseTi, rac bevrisTvis ar aris cnobili. Sen saidan ici es? aseve sakvirvelia is, rom Sen laparakob rusul enaze! rogor SeiZleba Sen es icode.”
da bhagavanma uTxra: “es me ar miswavlia, es CemTvis ar uswavlebiaT. me davibade amiT (erTad).”
Cemo megobrebo, es “kulminaciuri momenti” Cven SegviZlia ganvixiloT, rogorc sais sibrZnis didi margaliti. avatari ibadeba aseTi TvisebebiT da SesaZleblobebiT _ yovlismcodne, yovlismomcveli, yovlisSemZle bunebiT. es ar aris is, rac kultivirda, is rac Seswavlil iqna, an rac gavarjiSda. is daibada amiT. svamim am SeniSvnis gakeTebiT yvela gaakvirva.
2002 wlis 28 seqtemberi
“TiToeuli unda saqmianobdes Tavisi sruli SesaZleblobebiT”
Semdeg babam Txova gamosvla erT biWs. Tqven albaT usmendiT mas. Tqven SegeZloT genaxaT, rogor idga is da gamodioda sxva biWebis winaSe. me vambob 28 seqtembers am biWis nametyvelebis Sesaxeb. is dawvrilebiT laparakobda sevaze (msaxurebaze). man Tqva, rom yvelam unda akeTos seva sruli SesaZleblobebiT. da Semdeg man citireba gaakeTa svamis leqsisa, sadac naTqvamia:L”yvela Tayvaniscemaze, meditirebaze an salocavebSi siarulze ufro mniSvnelovania, msaxureba”. da Semdeg man gaixsena ramdenime epizodi svamis cxovrebidan.
raRaca drois win svami TviTon urigebda saWmels sawyal adamianebs. amas hqvia naraiana seva. erTxel, roca svamim daiwyo saWmlis darigeba, is SeCerda erT adgilze, sadac SeamCnia qali patara bavSviT xelSi. svami SeCerda da moixmo biWebidan erTi _seva dali. “Cven urigebT saWmels am adamianebs, magram ra xdeba bavSvTan dakavSirebiT”?
am seva dalma ver SeZlo raime epasuxa. “svami me ra unda gavakeTo?”
“unda moitano Wiqa rZe bavSvisTvis”.
maSin biWi _ seva dali gaiqca da moitana Wiqa rZe. svami agrZelebda xalxis rigebis Semovlas saWmlis darigebiT. im adgilidan ukve Sors iyo gasuli, roca SeCerda da SesZaxa: “Sen mieci rZe bavSvs?”
im biWma upasuxa: “diax, svami”.
svamim uTxra: “araviTari amis msgavsi!”
svami dabrunda ukan im qalTan da Seexo Wiqas. “is Zalian, Zalian cxelia. Sen rogor fiqrob, bavSvi SeZlebs mis dalevas? vera, moitane kidev erTi Wiqa”.
man daiwyo rZis gacieba erTi Wiqidan meoreSi gadasxmiT. man gaacia is da miawoda rZe bavSvs, da mxolod Semdeg moscilda.
es demonstrirebaa piradi monawileobisa, romelsac is Rebulobs yvelaferSi da im sulisa, romelsac, mas surs, rom Cven viyenebdeT sevas dros. seva anu msaxureba, es ar aris rutina, es raRaca meqanikuri ar aris, ara! es is ar aris rasac akeTeben ganrigiT. Cven es unda vakeToT mTeli guliT.
2002 wlis 1 seqtemberi
“Semgnebi, sindisi, Segneba”
es moxda 1 seqtembers, rogorc me ukve vTqvi, me vagrZeleb retrospeqtivis wesiT. Semdgom moments aqvs didi mniSvneloba yvelasaTvis. svami laparakobda studentebTan, filosofiis momaval doqtorebTan (samecniero wodeba). CvenTan amJamad eqvsi studenti muSaobs TavianT sadoqtoro programebze menejmentis fakultetze, da svamim mimarTa maT.
man uecrad mimarTa maTgan erT biWs: “ra aris “Semgnebi”?”
biWma uTxra: “me ar vici”.
“hm! Sen studenti xar, momavali doqtori, nuTu Sen ar ici, ra aris “Semgnebi”?”
“ara, svami, ar vici”.
“hm!”
man hkiTxa meore momaval profesors:L”ra aris “sindisi”?”
“svami, sindisi aris Sinagani xma”.
“ara, ara, Sen ar xar marTali”.
Semdeg man SekiTxva dausva kidev erT, maRali kursis, students. “ra aris Segneba?”
“svami ar vici”.
svamim Tqva: “momismineT, “Semgnebi” aris Wkua. Semgnebad gvevlineba Cveni Wkua. es Wkua fiqrobs. es Wkua grZnobs. es Wkuaa reagirebs, pasuxobs, pulsirebs. amrigad “Semgnebi” miekuTvneba Cvens Wkuas”.
Semdeg bhagavanma gaagrZela: “sindisi _ aris inteleqti (goneba)~ ratom? sindisi Zalian axloa sulTan, atmasTan. suli da atma _ es erTidaigivea. amrigad inteleqti Zalian axlosaa atmasTan. es inteleqti simbolirdeba, gadmoicema da gamoixateba am sityviT “sindisi”. Semdeg bhagavanma Tqva: “momdevno ra aris, Segneba? Segneba aris suli, atma, romelic yvelganmyofad moTavsebulia yvela sxeulSi da amavdroulad imyofeba yvelaferSi. is sxeulSia da, miuxedavad amisa imyofeba yvelgan, rogor?! haeri avsebs sahaero burTs, velosipedis an avtomobilis saburavs. magram haeri aris yvelgan garSemoc. aseTnairadve, suli anu atma imyofeba yvelaSi, da aseve yvelgan yvelaferSic.
amrigad, es sami sityva aRniSnavs sam dones Secnobisa, sam dones Segnebisa, sam dones aRqmisa, romelsac Cven vaRwevT intensiuri sadhanis anu sulieri praqtikis gzaze. Cven ar unda SevCerdeT romelime garkveul doneze. “Semgnebi” an Wkua _ Tu Cven SevCerdebiT Wkuis doneze, Cven davrCebiT mxolod emociurebad, mxolod vnebianebad, CvenSi moWarbebuli iqneba “cxoveluri” buneba, “cxoveluri” Wkua.
Tu Cven SevCerdebiT sindisis an inteleqtis doneze, Cven viqnebiT sakmaod inteleqtianebi, gonierebi midrekilebiT TviTanalizze, TviTSefasebaze. sxva sityvebiT Cven davrCebiT TviTgamokvlevis doneze. magram Cven unda gavagrZeloT. Cven unda wavideT ufro Sors, raTa mivaRwioT “Segnebis”, umaRlesis, realobis, atmis, sulis, umaRlesi “me”-s, kosmiuri “me”-s, mdgomareobas, romelic, rogorc ambobs bhagavani, aris “universaluri, samyaroseuli me”.
da bhagavanma siciliT SeniSna: “dRes biWebo Tqven gindaT gaigoT es. magram Tanamedrove axalgazrda adamianebi amisken ar iswrafvian. maTTvis cnobilia mxolod araWeSmariti, maT ara aqvT mcireodenic ki gageba.”
“ar aris inertuli materia”
maSin me miveci kiTxva svamis: “bhagavani?”
“diax”.
Cemo megobrebo aq me minda gacnoboT Tqven, rom roca aris sakmarisi dro, roca svami Zalian karg ganwyobazea, Cven SegviZlia daumorcxveblad mivceT mas nebismieri raodenoba kiTxvebisa yovelgvari moridebis gareSe.
da ai mec vifiqre mimeca Semdegi kiTxva: “bhagavan, raSia sxvaoba inertul materias, Segnebas, atmas an energias Soris?”
bhagavani Semobrunda Cemsken da miTxra: “hm, ar aris inertuli materia”.
“svami, Tu ar arsebobs inertuli materia, es ra aris? es inertulia. ras warmoadgens TviT es iataki? is inertulia. ra aris es kedlebi? _ inertulia. magram suli moqmedia. suli aris Segneba, suli aris Semecneba, suli aris energia. magram Sen ambob, ar aris materia, ar aris inertuli materia?”
svamim Tqva: “ara! materia ar aris saerTod”.
“es marTalia svami? rogor?”
bhagavanma mipasuxa:L”aris mxolod energia. energia gardaiqmneba materiaSi. materia SeiZleba transformirdes kvlav energiaSi. energia da materia aris erTi da igive. es urTierTSeqcevadi procesebia. materia ganaxldeba energiad da energia ganaxldeba materiad. ufro metic, materia Sedgeba atomebisgan da molekulebisgan, romlebic Tavis mxriv Sedgebian didi siCqariT mbrunavi eleqtronebis, protonebisa da neitronebisagan. maS, rogor SeiZleba vuwodoT mas inertuli materia? roca eleqtronebi, neitronebi da mikronawilakebi moZraoben uzarmazari siCqariT, rogor SeiZleba vuwodoT maT inertulebi. amrigad ar arsebobs araferi iseTi, rasac SeiZleba vuwodoT inertuli materia. yvelaferi _ RmrTiuria. RmTiurebas Tqven SegiZliaT uwodoT “kosmiuri energia” an “Segneba”.
es sakiTxi CvenTvis yvelasTvis gaxda gulaxdil gamxelad.
Semdeg man Tqva: “momismine anil kumar! is rasac laparakob aris Tanamedrove dabneulobis mtkicebuleba. Cveni biWebi warmoidgenen gaugebrobas, roca Sen demonstrireb dabneulobas. (sicili). da dRes Tanamedrove ganaTleba araferia sxva, garda dabneulobisa da gaugebrobisa”.
me viyavi kmayofili, upirvelesad imitom, rom, roca Tqven gisworebT bhagavani, komentirebs avatari, _ es privilegiaa. es Taviseburi RvTismowyalebaa. Tu me var instrumenti informaciis misaRebad da svamis gzavnilis yvelasTvis gasavrceleblad, maSin me momwons, roca misworeben, me miyvars, roca me mkicxaven, me mivesalmebi darigebas. ase, rom me viyavi amis moxaruli, da yoveli mxridan wamovida xarxaris afeTqebis xma.