თავი XII

sastrebi da saniasa

 

k: svami, Sen ambob, rom adamianma unda akeTos zogierTi ram; rom adamianma ar unda akeTos ra Tqma unda sxva rameebi. Cven rogor unda gavigoT, ra ra aris? ra aris avtoriteti?

p: sastrebi aris avtoriteti. manusmriThebi acxadeben, magaliTad, rom varnebi da aSramebi aris mxolod fizikuri gawmendisTvis da rom isini gavlenas ar axdenen umaRlesis dauflebaze an dakargvaze.

 

k: Tu es aris ase, ra saWiroa yvela es Tavis mobezreba varnebis da aSramebis, da wesebi da debulebebi romlebiTac maT avaleben?

p: oh, isini saWiroa im dromde vidre Sen gaxdebi Tavisufali mibmulobisgan an ragasgan. im dromde da misi gulisTvis debulebebi, SezRudvebi da wesebi unda Sesruldes namdvilad zustad. wamali unda miiRo im dromde vidre Seupovrobs avadmyofoba. avadmyofobis yovel tips aqvs gansakuTrebuli wamali gankurnebisTvis, ase ar aris? da gansxvavebuli mimarTulebis dieta da specialuri reJimi. Semdeg roca adamiani moicilebs avadmyofobas, mas SeuZlia mSvidad miiRos monawileoba dResaswaulze. amis daSvebis gareSe Tu janmrTeli da avadmyofi orive moiTxovs igive lxins, es miiyvans ubedur Sedegamde. varnebi da aSramebi aris rogorc wamali gamowerili maTTvis, vinc itanjeba am bhavarogiT, miwieri da amqveyniuri mibmulobis avadmyofobiT. raga (mibmuloba) aris roga (avadmyofoba), da roga gaqreba mxolod reJimiT, mkacrad daculiT. Tu ara Tqven ver miiRebT janmrTelobas, Tqven ver SeZlebT gaTavisuflebas. es aris vedantis  WeSmariti mniSvneloba; is, vinc es icis miaRwevs muktis, romelic ar unda iyos misi aSrami.

 

k: svami! gvyavs iseTi didi sulebi, romlebmac miaRwies mokSas an gaTavisuflebas, grihasTha aSramSi, saxlis patronis mdgomareobaSi yofnis dros?

p: janaka, asvapaThi, diliipa – iseni arian magaliTebi adamianebisa, romlebmac moipoves gaTavisufleba, rogorc grihasThebma.

 

k: svami! ar aris aucilebeli zustad midevneba Srutis miwerilobebis, romlebic akisreben adamians valdebulebas brahmaCarias stadiis dasrulebis Semdeg gaiaros Semdegi grihasThas stadia, Sevides vaanaprasThaSi da daicvas am stadiis SezRudvebi da wesebi da Semdeg sabolood miiRos saniasa, sicocxle srul uaryofaSi? Tu SeuZlia adamians miiRos saniasa amis gareSec Tundac sxva nabijebiT svlis meSveobiT?

p: diax, yvela SemTxvevaSi roca adamiani Tavisufldeba sagnebTan mibmulobisgan, mas SeuZlia miiRos saniasa. Tu aseTi Sansi ar aris CaWidebuli, adamiani midis dacemaze.. romelic ar unda iyos stadia an aSrami romelSic Sen xar, rodesac Sen miaRwev srul uaris Tqmas, zustad im momentSi Sen SegiZlia axvide saniasas stadiaze. ar arsebobs rkinis wesi, rom Sen unda icxovro sami adreuli aSramis an stadiis gavliT. es agreTve aris sruThis miweriloba. mizezi aris: aseT sufTa suls sxva stadiebSi ukve gavlili aqvs sasargeblo wvrTna ­- ganwmenda – wina dabadebebis mZime gansacdelebSi. misi damangreveli miswrafebebi amoZirkulia da progresulebi, ammaRleblebi, ganviTarda TviT mis wina dabadebebSi.

 

k: Cven rogor unda vicodeT, rom aseTi transformireba ukve miRebulia wina dabadebebSi? arsebobs raime niSnebi, romliTac Cven aRmovaCenT, rom ama Tu im stadias an aSrams SeiZleba gadavaxteT? Tu isini aris, geTayva miTxari me.

p: is faqti, rom adamians ar aqvs midrekileba sami aSramisken, rom mas ar aqvs mibmuloba da mizidva maT mimarT, aris naTeli niSani. Tu mibmulobisgan Tavisufleba ganviTarebulia warsul dabadebaSi, midrekileba ar iqneba. mas Semdeg rac cnobierdeba, rom marto atmania namdvili, adamiani Tavisufldeba cxovrebis sami wina stadiis mibmulobisgan. roca Cndeba uaryofa, adamians SeuZlia uari Tqvas yofiT cxovrebaze, Tundac wyeba iyos gadasabijebeli. es aris mowonebuli sruThebiT. magram adamianma, romelic Cuqnis saniasas unda Seiswavlos mTeli moculobiT da daarwmunos Tavisi Tavi, rom pirovneba viszec is Cuqnis, is aris moklebuli grZnobiT aRgznebebs da mibmulobebs. saniasa unda mieces mxolod iseT adamians, visi Wkuac ar aris mRelvare, an vritti rogorc mas uwodeben; mxolod aseTze SeiZleba iTqvas, rom is aris mibmulobisgan Tavisufali. kandidatmac aseve unda Seiswavlos Tavisi Tavi da naxos, misi Sinagani cnobiereba aris Tu ara Tavisufali gunebisgan, siClungisgan, moqmedebisgan an Tundac progresulobisgan. Tu is ar aris amdenad Tavisufali, is ara marto daarRvevs saniasas aRTqmas da iqneba gariyuli, aramed is SeiZleba gaiWylitos kidec tvirTis qveS, waawydes damRupvel dasrulebas.

 

k: saniasa aris erTi saxis Tu arsebobs gansxvavebuli saxeebi?

p: arsebobs saniasas sami tipi. es aris dehasaniasa, manosaniasa da atmasaniasa.

 

 k: ras niSnavs dehasaniasa?

p: saniasa garegnulad, ramdenadac garegani sxeuli aris SeSfoTebuli. is atarebs oxris feris mantias, Rebulobs saxels, Cndeba formaSi, magram mas ara aqvs atmas gacnobiereba; is daxetialobs yvela obieqtur survilebs Soris, ekroba gareTa sagnebs. is msgavsia Cveulebrivi adamianis yvela ganzraxvebiT da miznebiT.

 

k: da manosaniasa?

p: manosaniasaSi is uars ambobs yvela gadawyvetilebasa da survilze, mas Wkua aqvs mkacri kontrolis qveS; is ar xelmZRvanelobs biZgebiT an aRelvebiT; is yovelTvis aris wynari da yuradRebamokrefili.

 

k: Sen axsene atmasaniasa rogorc mesame.

p: aq is gamoxeTqavs yvela azrebis meSveobiT nivTebze romlebic ar ukavSirdeba atmas, imitom, rom is mudmivad CaZirulia WeSmariti sinamdvilis ganWvretaSi `aham brahmaasmi”. is aris myari Tavisi arsis atmas SegrZnebaSi. misi ananda aris uwyveti, akhanda. mas ewodeba amriThasaniasa. yvelaze ukuneTi sibnelis gafantva SeuZlia mxolod sinaTles, wamosuls mzis mbrwyinavi diskodan; aseTnairadve, atmasaniasas cialis gareSe, umecreba ver gaifanteba – yuTi, romelSic gulia dafaruli, ver gatydeba da atma ver SeZlebs gabrwyinebas misi sakuTari didebiT.

 

k: rogor SeiZleba miaRwio saniasas am tipebidan TiToeuls? ra aris imis niSnebi, rom misi esa Tu is tipi miRweulia?

p: dehasaniasa miiRweva maradiulsa da warmavals, warmavalsa da xangrZlivs Soris gansxvavebis daxmarebiT. manosaniasas SeiZleba miaRwio metyvelebis, grZnobebis, Wkuis Wirveulobebis dapyrobiT. atmasaniasa moipoveba sakuTari Tavis vedanturi azrovnebis principebiT avsebiT. rodesac es saganmanaTleblo gavlena gaxdeba Zlieri da Sen ganmtkicdebi am saTnoebasa da damokidebulebaSi, Sen SeZleb gaTavisuflebis, rogorc yvela am stadiis erToblivi Sedegis miRebas.

 

k: vin aris maT Soris namdvilad bednieri, isini visac cxovreba gatarebuli aqvs sayuradRebo gziT?

p: mokled, is, vinc futkariviT Cumad da didi siamovnebiT wovs Taflis netarebas yvavilidan, vinc aris winaswarganzraxuli atmas netarebis neqtris ganuwyvetliv dagemovnebaze; vinc ignorirebs am samyaros, rogorc ‘scenas’, drsias; is namdvilad yvelaze bednieria; misi sicocxle aris yvelaze Rirseuli im dros.

 

k: maSin, svami, ras niSnavs uxucesTa mier naTqvami rogor mivaRwioT saThias, niThias, nirmalas da sanThis? rogor unda mivaRwioT am WeSmaritebas, maradisobas, sisufTaves da simSvides?

p: me rogorc ukve vTqvi, is, vinc ar ebmeba ‘scenaze’, magram didi mkafio asoebiT Cawerilia Tavisi sakuTari atmas netarebaSi; swored is aris, vinc aRwevs saThias, niThias, nirmalas da sanThis. Tu ki is aRwevs Tundac erT romelimes, es sakmarisia; vinaidan erTi moicavs yvelas.